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Captain Morgan 01-22-2009 09:58 PM

SCORE! Ak mags and ammo...
 
So tonight I was eyeballing another of my favorite sites and cames across someone selling 695 rounds of 7.62x39 ammo, mostly Chinese. The guy happened to be about 10 miles from me so I sent him an email and told him I'd take it.

10 minutes later I find another of this guys posts, this time selling (11) 30 round magazines and 2 East German mag pouches. 8 of the mags are brand new and never fired. I sent him a 2nd email and asked if he'd do a package deal if I met him tonight.

He quickly replied and I just got home from meeting him...695 rounds of ammo, 11 mags, 35 stripper clips and 2 pouches FTF for $300 :9536::9536::9536:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...o/IMG_7040.jpg
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CyberGold 01-22-2009 10:03 PM

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Awsome deal - had your name written all over it.:565:

Twisted Avatar 01-22-2009 10:10 PM

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Chinese Ammo???

Dam near armor piercing baby!!!!

Dirty Harry 01-22-2009 10:15 PM

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SWEET!! You made out like...

Glass 01-23-2009 12:29 AM

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outstanding deal. Go CP! :biggrin:

gangsta99 01-23-2009 12:53 AM

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Very nice deal sir.

I need to start looking for such deals here locally.

LowDow 01-23-2009 01:16 AM

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I see by the two solid lines on the bottom of the mags that those may be Yugo mags. Can you post a picture showing the follower of one of the mags?

LukeNM 01-23-2009 01:24 AM

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Wow, those might be the coveted BHO Yugo Magazines! Yeah, post some pictures...

Nina Levin 01-23-2009 01:50 AM

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Those are Chinese mags just like the "yugo" mags selling at ammoman without the China stamp on the floorplate.

LowDow 01-23-2009 01:55 AM

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Yeah....maybe he bought them because they were supposed to be BHO and now he is just dumping them! :111:

Nina Levin 01-23-2009 02:10 AM

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Probably not. It looks like the mags in the pics have the China stamp on the floor plate. That stamp should bring $20 - $30 each. Especially since the current "yugo" mags on the market don't have the stamp but are identical in every other way. Nice score!

LowDow 01-23-2009 03:05 AM

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That looks like an excellent purchase plus the fact that you got to examine all of it before you bought! Those kind of deals don't happen everyday! Right place right time.

I was not laughing at your purchase. That is an inside joke with another poster.

CrufflerJJ 01-23-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1526231)
Chinese Ammo???

Dam near armor piercing baby!!!!

Ummm....no. Not necessarily.

After our benevolent govt banned the commercial sale of steel core "armor piercing" 7.62x39 ammo, there were tons & tons of Chinese stuff imported with much friendlier (kinder, gentler, more Politically Correct) lead core HP & FMJ bullets. I got a couple cases back in the early 1990s from Paragon Sales. Copper washed steel cases, but lead core boolits.

Captain Morgan 01-23-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nina Levin (Post 1526612)
Probably not. It looks like the mags in the pics have the China stamp on the floor plate. That stamp should bring $20 - $30 each. Especially since the current "yugo" mags on the market don't have the stamp but are identical in every other way. Nice score!

Good eye...the 8 new mags are all stamped "made in china" on the round emboss on the floorplate

Captain Morgan 01-23-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1526814)
Ummm....no. Not necessarily.

After our benevolent govt banned the commercial sale of steel core "armor piercing" 7.62x39 ammo, there were tons & tons of Chinese stuff imported with much friendlier (kinder, gentler, more Politically Correct) lead core HP & FMJ bullets. I got a couple cases back in the early 1990s from Paragon Sales. Copper washed steel cases, but lead core boolits.

Most of it is dated from the 1960's so I am fairly sure it is steel core...

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 09:21 AM

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AWESOME deal my man ! :ok: :coolbeer:

Oh......and those mags can be converted to bolt-hold open on the last round.

Search out the thread or just take one apart and grind down the bumps on the inside to allow the follower to come completely up to the top.

:s9:

Dirty Harry 01-23-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 1526833)
Most of it is dated from the 1960's so I am fairly sure it is steel core...

Break out the magnet and show us a pic of those babies hangin'....:RockOn:

EE_ 01-23-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry (Post 1526963)
Break out the magnet and show us a pic of those babies hangin'....:RockOn:

I second the magnet! That would make the score even better.

CrufflerJJ 01-23-2009 12:12 PM

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Break out the magnet and show us a pic of those babies hangin'....:RockOn:

First off, I'm not trying to be a bozo here (although it DOES come pretty naturally to me!:111:).

Please see the picture I've attached to this message. Top left image shows a neodymium super-maggot (stolen from our fridge) attached to the copper washed bullet from some 1993 headstamped Chinese ammo (steel copper washed case, berdan primed, labeled as lead core).

Maggot sticks-->AP steel core...right?

Not quite.

A lot of mil-surplus ammo has a mild steel jacket over some sort of core. Some cores are mild steel, lead, or even armor piercing (typically a hardened steel insert, as is used in the older US "black tip" .30-06 rounds). I think that even some of the current Wolf or Silver Bear ammo has a copper plated mild steel jacket.

Top right image shows the base of the bullet, with some scratches I put in it.

This DOES NOT mean that the entire core is lead. Some Soviet sniper ammo for the Dragunov, and I think some of their 5.45x39 ammo, has an air space up front, a steel insert, then a lead "cap" at the base of the bullet.

I used my trusty Dremel tool & cutting disc to chop through the side of the bullet & peel it away from the core (see bottom left image).

Then I smacked the soft lead core a few times with a 16 oz hammer - it deforms very easily.

The "magnet test" is good to see if the bullet contains any steel, but it alone does not prove that the bullet has a steel core, nor does it prove that the steel core is AP.

Even mild steel cores will hurt if properly applied. Mild steel was used in a lot of the pre-ban Chinese ammo. There IS some AP 7.62x39 ammo being currently used over in warm sandy places by (eastern European, I think) security contractors. They find it very nice for punching through the door of the vehicle they're riding in, through the door/body of the target vehicle, and then into/through the bodies of the target (threat/terrorist/bad guy). Lead core or mild steel core can't be trusted to do this.

Even a mild steel core, however, will pop right through Spectra (hack/yuck/ptoooeh) based armor plates. Spectra may stop lead cored bullets, but not steel.

I guess it all depends on what your target will be, eh?

All that glitters is not gold...all that sticks to a magnet is not steel core.

Twisted Avatar 01-23-2009 12:52 PM

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Well it is still good stuff to have.


T

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 02:19 PM

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Well it is still good stuff to have.


T

Ok, now wipe that DROOL off your keyboard. :s9::biggrin:

Captain Morgan 01-23-2009 02:54 PM

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Hmm...maybe I should chop a few of these open, most are from 4 different years...all in the 1960's :ok:

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 03:01 PM

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Remove the "bumps"

http://home.roadrunner.com/~m70AK3/bho2.jpg

http://www.ar15.com/lite/topic.html?b=4&f=55&t=84152

:s1:

Captain Morgan 01-23-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1527604)

Damn good info, thanks AD!! :biggrin:

Twisted Avatar 01-23-2009 03:57 PM

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Ok, now wipe that DROOL off your keyboard. :s9::biggrin:

Cant help it......... just the thought of owning something that makes Attorney General Eric Holder Cringe dose something to me.

meatman 01-23-2009 05:51 PM

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Sweet Deal

The Argent Dragon 01-23-2009 05:57 PM

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Bwhaaa - ha ha ah aha hahha ! :ok:

http://pictures.linkmesh.com/dragons...mon-dragon.jpg

mtnman 01-23-2009 06:03 PM

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Dang!!! I missed a deal! Glad it was another GIMer that found it! Good work!!

Captain Morgan 01-25-2009 07:16 PM

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Woohoo....score again!!

Just got a brand new (still in plastic) 75 round Chinese AK drum for $125!!!

:RockOn:

The guy has a case of them at that price...if anyone wants one PM me and I'll send you his contact info!

(I don't know him personally and do not gaurantee the transaction...I'm merely providing contact info and any transaction, good or bad...is between you and the seller)


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